PTS Patch Notes are up...

[MrTwig]

Gracia Epilogue - PTS Patch Notes - Page 2 - Lineage II Forums (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=2942724&posted=1#post2942724)

ok.. got a question - does:

"Support magic has been extended. It will now be offered to all characters level 75 and below. "

mean that newbie buffs are extended to level 75?

[Yuva]

I think soo :)

[MrTwig]

it was confirmed - newbie buffs to level 75

So.. why do I still keep the the PP around?

[hoctopusse]

maybe for 76+

[MrTea]

yah... PoF++

[Huckleberry]

it was confirmed - newbie buffs to level 75

So.. why do I still keep the the PP around?

For people who actually level for hours at a time, a boxed buffer is still useful.

[MrTwig]

For people who actually level for hours at a time, a boxed buffer is still useful.

that is a good point - but still... :(

[Genosha]

Nothing can fucking beat a Doomcryer anyway! Good luck grinding on lv61+ with newbie buffs (no (Gr.)Might, no defense buffs, no Focus/DW) you gonna do lol dmg and need a lot of heal pots. Unless they gonna chance the newbie buffs aswell to include some more buffs in the range 62-75 it's just lol and people want normal buffers (PP/SE/WC) to help them along.

Enchants gonna suck. Less SP needed but loads of EXP. In screenshots on Elliebelly I noticed that an enchant of Dance of Alignment costs about 2mil adena.

Lv79 Epic Quest gonna be godly. If I calculated it right (based on 55k exp needed per 0.01%) the complete questchance will give you approx. 65%, which no adena reward. So you gonna boosts to almost level 80 and are unable to afford S80 (approx 1,5bil).

So far, I have seen nothing new which I haven't seen on Elliebelly yet based on Asian and Russian G+ details. Altho the newbie buff thing is new for me .

[Jannu]

i seriouslz doubt grinding 65% will give u more adena than getting the exp for questing..but it does give u more time to play the market if u intend to do the 65% manually.

and... where u get 65% from? its 30% total afaik. maybe the 65% is for paid premium accounts in russia?

[Clawfingers]

good for newbie buffs, but i will stil need my baby pet for might, acc, focus and DW

anyway who fight solo this days :p

[MrTwig]

that is true - newbie buffs do not give you the better buffs.

[Cabala]

Skill linking skills available to SE's:

Vitalize
Might of Heaven
Resist Poison
Repose
Hold Undead
Holy Weapon
Regeneration
Requiem
Return
Peace
Agility
Greater Battle Heal
Bless Shield
Mass Resurection
Decrease Weight
Restore Life
Resist Shock
Benediction
Serenade of Eva
Advanced Block
Prayer
Body of Avatar
Unholy Resistance
Trance
Magical Backfire
Mana Storm
Major Group Heal
Celestial Shield
Party Recall
Clarity
Major Heal
Turn Undead

For me Clarity, Party Recall and Major Heal are pretty much standard issue. The question remains whether I want agility, resist shock, major group heal or Celestial Shield as a last option. Each really have their own niece of usefulness but for general purpouse I am leaning towards Celestial Shield as a lifesaver, If I get bored some day I might try to get a party recall augment instead and get a second of these last skills I mentioned :)

[Yuva]

GEno don't u get AA from those quest as reward??
I think i saw it somewhere at ellie a while ago.

Btw if i can chose between a pp and newbie i go pp. Do wanna go back to town and run to ur exp spot.

[Genosha]

i seriouslz doubt grinding 65% will give u more adena than getting the exp for questing..but it does give u more time to play the market if u intend to do the 65% manually.

and... where u get 65% from? its 30% total afaik. maybe the 65% is for paid premium accounts in russia?

7 x 52mil EXP = 364mil EXP / approx. 55k EXP per 0.01% (at 79) = 6,600 * 0.01% and that is about 66% for doing 7 quests =))

And yeah you get 1.5mil AA for the last part Yuva. 1.5mil * 9 = 13,500,000 which isn't that much to be honoust.

Anyway I know for sure that Smart Cubic is coming fast, aswell as Chant of Protection and Magus Chant. Hellyeah! I don't need an EE/SE to level up my Spellhowler sub. Constant Magus !!

[Huckleberry]

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For me Clarity, Party Recall and Major Heal are pretty much standard issue. The question remains whether I want agility, resist shock, major group heal or Celestial Shield as a last option. Each really have their own niece of usefulness but for general purpouse I am leaning towards Celestial Shield as a lifesaver, If I get bored some day I might try to get a party recall augment instead and get a second of these last skills I mentioned :)

I'm in the same boat. The first 3 you mentioned are pretty much locked in. I just don't see many uses for Celestial Shield on a boxed buffer that Party Return wouldn't cover. Even on Traci, it's hard to use on other people because you don't usually tell them it's coming, so then they break it by performing another action (usually attacking or casting something). And as an "oh shit" defense, I think Party Recall will do.

I'm leaning towards Resist Shock myself. But having a dagger as your main, agility might be kind of cool too, no? In any case, you can just pay 10kk and choose again :D

I can even see taking all the Rift skills if you play SE as a main.

[Cabala]

well the thing with celestial shield is... it is awesome for raid bosses where you cant pr out. And since I am poling a lot it is also very nice for pulling. Since it is easy to keep up with a big group of mobs while you are hitting them ang getting vr heals, but you don't get all that while you pull.

[Genosha]

The whole skill linking is still overpowered if you ask me. It would be better if it was 2/2/4, since SE can now become pure recharge/nuker pet while EE/Cardi only can get one thing. And I personally can't figure out what that has to be.

[Clawfingers]

And what about pp? Can he get some other skill ?

[Yuva]

Something else:

With the new update a new belt is coming out.

Rune Clip Belt Increases recovery rate of HP and MP.

Does this mean it is only availble in Rune. If yes would it be usefull to apply for Rune next time in TW.

Yuva

[hoctopusse]

And what about pp? Can he get some other skill ?

Nothing for pp this Update :( again :(

[Genosha]

Something else:

With the new update a new belt is coming out.

Rune Clip Belt Increases recovery rate of HP and MP.

Does this mean it is only availble in Rune. If yes would it be usefull to apply for Rune next time in TW.

Yuva

Dunno... I think it's obtainable everywhere. The Eva's event items were also called 'Rune'. Besides that, Rune also means something inscribted with an ancient language. Don't think Rune is needed for this, if so... NC just fukced up TW. Also... look at the screenshot in the patchnotes. It's a screenshot from Dion region and the Rune belt is in the reward list.

I rly gotta farm badges, I need some of those Codex ^^;

[Venoma]

Geno where u got 55k xp gives 0.01 at 79?! It is 180k 0.01% at lvl79 aprox. I calculated will i kill at ketra.

[Jannu]

7 x 52mil EXP = 364mil EXP / approx. 55k EXP per 0.01% (at 79) = 6,600 * 0.01% and that is about 66% for doing 7 quests =))

And yeah you get 1.5mil AA for the last part Yuva. 1.5mil * 9 = 13,500,000 which isn't that much to be honoust.

Anyway I know for sure that Smart Cubic is coming fast, aswell as Chant of Protection and Magus Chant. Hellyeah! I don't need an EE/SE to level up my Spellhowler sub. Constant Magus !!

Geno i can tell u teh exact number of exp required for 79 to 80.. its 2.1B exp, and its my expericne that i need 150k exp for 0.01% at 79. I think ur math is based on wrong facts :p

[Genosha]

It's based on lv78 and possible increasement of exp needed. Never knew increasement would be 2x whats needed on 78 to get 0.01%

But hey! I will experience lv79 in about 0.30% so don't blaim me. Anyway 35% from doing a quest ain't bad either ;)

[Jannu]

indeed 35% isnt bad.. means ill be lvl 80 once gracia + goes live and i can complete the quests :)

[Genosha]

Yeah and vitality is gonna chance to pre-75 like usage so the vitapops gonna be useful again =) 99.95% till 80!!

[Luxovius]

I didn't read everything but you know that celestial shield gets canceled everytime you do any action cabala?

[Cabala]

I didn't read everything but you know that celestial shield gets canceled everytime you do any action cabala?

Except walking yes. (which is what I do when I am pulling for poling!) :D

[Balian]

Nothing can fucking beat a Doomcryer anyway! Good luck grinding on lv61+ with newbie buffs (no (Gr.)Might, no defense buffs, no Focus/DW) you gonna do lol dmg and need a lot of heal pots. Unless they gonna chance the newbie buffs aswell to include some more buffs in the range 62-75 it's just lol and people want normal buffers (PP/SE/WC) to help them along.

Enchants gonna suck. Less SP needed but loads of EXP. In screenshots on Elliebelly I noticed that an enchant of Dance of Alignment costs about 2mil adena.

Lv79 Epic Quest gonna be godly. If I calculated it right (based on 55k exp needed per 0.01%) the complete questchance will give you approx. 65%, which no adena reward. So you gonna boosts to almost level 80 and are unable to afford S80 (approx 1,5bil).

So far, I have seen nothing new which I haven't seen on Elliebelly yet based on Asian and Russian G+ details. Altho the newbie buff thing is new for me .
lol nab calculate better, 55k xp for 0.01% @ lv 79? what have u smoked? i would've been allready lv 80 by now yet im a quater only

[Balian]

Geno where u got 55k xp gives 0.01 at 79?! It is 180k 0.01% at lvl79 aprox. I calculated will i kill at ketra.
gave me ~ that or 200k and i calculated for each mob in ketra too: ty bro

[Cabala]

just go to a skill enchanter and check how much xp you have in numbers. You know your % so...

[Genosha]

I found a flaw in the patchnotes that is crap for summoners (liek ofc, they find a way to fuck us over)

On lv78+ mobs, damage will be decreased if you're 2 levels below. Based on level of summoner and not the pet. WTF, like I can do damage... Isn't the key of being a summoner that your pet does all the damage? Kinda screwover ...

[MrTwig]

Gen - I think you have it backwards sorta. The way I understand it is that it is based on your level - meaning it does not matter how you do damage (with your summon) the penality is still based on the toons level. Does that make sense?

[Ellone]

(based on 55k exp needed per 0.01%)

As the others already said it's near 200k exp needed for 0.01% at lv 79.

Maybe look more at your screen while exping? :p

[Genosha]

Gen - I think you have it backwards sorta. The way I understand it is that it is based on your level - meaning it does not matter how you do damage (with your summon) the penality is still based on the toons level. Does that make sense?
I read it the same way as I wrote it. Kinda is odd, yesterday I enchanted Spectral Lord to +1 (47% chance, got 55k SP left xD and almost down to 0%), making it a level 81 pet. Me being level 79 I can max hunt mobs level 81 without getting damage penalty in G+, while the thing doing all the damage is equal to any melee class at that level which is able to hunt level 83 mobs without penalty.


As the others already said it's near 200k exp needed for 0.01% at lv 79.

Maybe look more at your screen while exping? :p

Owh haha ... Next time logon arround 3AM while everybody is asleep and see if I am online. No, I am not I am sleeping while my systems are off. Like I do overnight exp. Always am near my system or next to my 2nd system while I exp and am making homework or doing other school stuff. As I said, the calculations were made on level 78, based on an increase I thought was reasonable since I didn't checked the "how much to next level" table.

Based on the fact that I made 12mil exp in about 2hrs and gained almost 0.6% it looks like the exp needed on 79 per 0.01% is 120k and not 150/200 like you guys say.

[Balian]

I read it the same way as I wrote it. Kinda is odd, yesterday I enchanted Spectral Lord to +1 (47% chance, got 55k SP left xD and almost down to 0%), making it a level 81 pet. Me being level 79 I can max hunt mobs level 81 without getting damage penalty in G+, while the thing doing all the damage is equal to any melee class at that level which is able to hunt level 83 mobs without penalty.



Owh haha ... Next time logon arround 3AM while everybody is asleep and see if I am online. No, I am not I am sleeping while my systems are off. Like I do overnight exp. Always am near my system or next to my 2nd system while I exp and am making homework or doing other school stuff. As I said, the calculations were made on level 78, based on an increase I thought was reasonable since I didn't checked the "how much to next level" table.

Based on the fact that I made 12mil exp in about 2hrs and gained almost 0.6% it looks like the exp needed on 79 per 0.01% is 120k and not 150/200 like you guys say.

just count every mob for 3 0.01% (like i did, i mean count the xp exactly, not the number of mobs) and see what it gives.
P.S. martin told me, but i would liked you would :( (don't be mad @ him)

[Genosha]

Martin told me he told you when I came back. No hard feelings.

[MrTwig]

Gen - I see what you were saying - and yea it is kinda messed up, but on the flip side, that means you do not "need" to OE the summoner.

[Genosha]

I need to, to make it usefull in PvP. Since the 2 level difference thing doesn't work in PvP. Clannies in Nemesiis told me on our old clan forum that they are already planning CT3 release somewhere in 2010, so maybe some hope =))