Did anyone in Clan even before I return set anything with Serenity?

[Mastergumble]

I am confused with the Serenity info, according Teiku (not even can remember who that one is), someone asked their Leader or Leaders if we could participate in same sieges as them, I never did such talk and the only talk I got so far was with Ech0 Leader who mailed me for the last siege to ask if we would be up to help them, or join their CC, my position as always was simple as far Doom ally would not be there we could join but having them there would be skipped by me.

So I am curious about who did any previous agreement or request, it may even been before I returned to the game...


Second (and that is the reason why I leave this on open so everyone can read it) this is what was said:

Seril and me tried to make our clans friends. I know Seril made a lot of contacts to you and he talked to Babouras

Again I wonder who was been talking to?

Seril asked me once if we would go defend or help one of Serenity Clans, that was on the first siege I think after I return and my answer was simple as I would sign for the Castles we would decide within the Alliance but so far I would be attacker and would do my best to let Castle away from any enemy faction, and with a open window to crest I would not ignore it.

But seems Seril interpretation was different, but that was the ONLY talk he did to me about anything related to Serenity, only when he left with is alt telling that he was trying to create a link between us and Ech0, I respect that and would even work on anything but the rest he told was something like:

"I understand you don't want Eximius playing with Ech0 cause some ppl left there", I made that thread open too, I NEVER forbid ANYONE in this Clan or Alliance to play with any other Clan.

The only thing I was pissed was with the argument of "Sorry I need to leave I cant be in party with Eximius cause I never know when a Greenfire will be in that party too and I still remember what they did to us"

And sorry but was in KJ who were was some of them, and in fact they returned to GF again, so I took that argument as totally useless.


That was two weeks max. three after I return to game not knowing anything about merges, about lots of clans and alliances!


This is my post where Seril took the wrong info:

Im ok with many things, but once reged for a Castle or anyone in the alliance where I belong, I will fight for crest it or have someone inside the alliance cresting, and not only support third part clans.

And Seril conclusion:

Well i can t really say to Echo/Serenity we are going to help them if we are ready to crest in their back.
Usually they clean all the field of other clans not clearly settled to their side, so i guess on oren battle, if we dont do diplomacy, we will fight them.

So the wrong one was me?

Or did Seril assumed they were third part clan type?



Seems to me that is some problem with communications between Serenity Clans, and that is not my problem, so far I add two or three contacts with them, none was ever done with Seril or talked to me wile is alt was here.

The problem I got so far with them apart of some GF I saw in KJ was during the event I was poling two rooms on FOG and one KJ party showed and trained me while I was alone waiting D00m and Zoom and start to make funny of it, and the reason they trained me was to get four rooms witch they could not handle before everything was spawned!

I lost XP, Mabys and boxed Buffers and Freshed Nevit Potions!

That was the reason I mailed KJ Leader or got any reply from such person ever!

If ppl call that QQ or whatever it is their own problem, for me trying to avoid problems or clearing things is not QQ but seems some ppl lack of any diplomacy knowledge or their vision is too limited on that.


So if anyone can explain this to me I appreciate, but don't mail me or tell we do this and that when all I read it is totally disturbed from truth.

[Separla]

I not really understood what happen too... As i know they thought we came to that siege to help them and they have been surprised we tried to crest. Best things is to contact their leader Babouras (Echo) and only him to clarify next time (I personnaly don t trust any KJ peepz).

[Mastergumble]

I not really understood what happen too... As i know they thought we came to that siege to help them and they have been surprised we tried to crest. Best things is to contact their leader Babouras (Echo) and only him to clarify next time (I personnaly don t trust any KJ peepz).

I was the first cresting with Ech0 Leader on Chat, soon he told they were near entrance I suspended Crest, when was less then 1 minute to be done.

As far I know nobody else did any crest attempt, NF have no leader to do it if any was there, HF I remember someone there but think the Leader was not there too, also there was no info ever of such thing, if they heard any crest attempt was not from us that I am pretty sure.

Just after two different stories about "Seril trying and talking to me a lot things" witch never happen with me and could not being logged before the end of November cause my account was not even active by the time, my last log was on the merge day to secure the character names.

Thats why I put this here and I expect a solid answer from Seril or whoever is telling that talked to me about any friendship.

Simple as I see this now is someone trying to create problems, and I like ppl that have faces to show and not hide spamming troubles, and digging on drama things between us, that was the typical behavior of one old well known enemy of our ally or any Legit Clan on Franz.

[MrTwig]

The whole thing is very confusing to me - it seems that the Serenity Clans do not talk to each other at all about what one clan said to another clan - it is a very weird ally.

As far as communication between our clan and their ally - I know that before the server merge, there was some talk about working together on somethings, but that died out after the server merge.

Sorry, I just don't have any more info.

[Mastergumble]

The whole thing is very confusing to me - it seems that the Serenity Clans do not talk to each other at all about what one clan said to another clan - it is a very weird ally.

As far as communication between our clan and their ally - I know that before the server merge, there was some talk about working together on somethings, but that died out after the server merge.

Sorry, I just don't have any more info.

Would like better those details, and who was discussing them, also seems weird such planing before servers merge but whatever, more details would be nice, I hate to be motive of ppl discussion not knowing anything about it.

Or maybe some thought I am some sort of magician that I log in game after months break and with a click everything change the way everyone like...

[Dookan]

so my friend, this is all i know from this history:
- Teiku is a littlecats member, and atm is an officer from ech0.

- I remember that when we first had server merge, we(littlecats members) wanted to create a cooperation between Eximius and Ech0 in a Schuttgard Siege (the first one of Naia)... i mean nothing official, we just shouted Ech0 clan/ally to say that Eximius/Synergy where friends and to not atack them... but 2 minutes after, Right come and started to atack Eximius players, we even said "hey they are friends!" but no response at all.

Except by this i cant say anything else about Serenity Ally, Seril's or even Teiku's actions about this matter this is "new" stuff for me also, so im just confused as you about it.

[MrTwig]

Would like better those details, and who was discussing them, also seems weird such planing before servers merge but whatever, more details would be nice, I hate to be motive of ppl discussion not knowing anything about it.

Or maybe some thought I am some sort of magician that I log in game after months break and with a click everything change the way everyone like...

Trust me it is nothing to get worried about.

Before the server merge the officers were trying to figure out all the clans from the other servers - KJ/Echo/ect names came up, there was small talk but they were not interested in an ally they they already had three clans, but it was "hey you are legit, so are we, maybe in the new server we can do things together, if not say hi when we see each other after the merge on the new server.. bla bla bla... " nothing more came from that.

[Mastergumble]

This is the pm I got today from Teiku.

First of all I am Teiku, former member and co-leader of LittleCats and current officer of Ech0 clan. If you don't remember me by numerous contacts with our clan, I have nothing to do about it.
Second the siege I was talking about was not the last one, but one before the last one. There Castor told I quote "Eximius leader asked me if this ok to come to siege. I told that it's ok unless he tries to cast". Ofc I can't be 100% sure that he tells the truth, but why he would lie about such a minor matter.

Tbh I had many thoughts in my head while reading your first pm, but when I saw your second I lost my will to reply you at all. If you say even that Seril didn't talk to you about Serenity and good relations... well, let's close that discussion and never talk about anything anymore. No point imo.
I wish your clan all the best, do what you like, kill whoever you want, join any CC or not join any CC, come to any siege. You're a free man and you have a clan full of free men and women, just enjoy the game.

I keep waiting Seril to show up to explain with who ever did he talk, and since some ppl keep reading our forums to pass the info.

The only ever interaction between me and Castor was when I was trained by is members in FOG, he replied to me asking names, and never ever got any conversation, question whatever.

And again

If you say even that Seril didn't talk to you about Serenity and good relations... well, let's close that discussion and never talk about anything anymore. No point imo.

So why don't tell I am the liar in public?

Or to assume who the hell is wrong here?

[Mastergumble]

Im simple mode:

01 - I was away from game since Freya launch (Soemewhere in August) till November, 15 and I was placed back as Leader on November, 30.

02 - The only Log I did in game over all the previous time was on October, 05 to save my toons names.

03 - There was no info passed from anyone about any Serenity Ally or any related Clan, previous conversations and nothing posted on this Forum or even in the Leader Team private area.

04 - During my return as Leader I started to do the best to return to active recruitment and revive things since many left game and others the Clan.

05 - Two weeks after Seril left the Clan with is alt telling was sad cause was afraid to join any Eximius party cause the risk of having Greenfire players on such invites, and wanted to create some link between us and Ech0 (This was first time ever he told me about it).

06 - Several players were spotted specially in KJ from GF and reported without any answer back, even some on bot trains in Hellbound and in Delusion Chamber with some Right Members. (This was the reason we skipped any help or relation to any Serenity Clan after Oren sieges where we were fighting against Kenig Ally for Siege fun but they took it as we were supporting Serenity, even Imperlot Leader after declared the war confirmed that reason to myself).

07 - Cola was taking some chats with Ech0 Leader who also mailed me about creating a friendship for doing some things together (Tiat, etc.), this was the first time ever I talked with Ech0 Leader.

08 - During the 2 x XP Event I was trained by KJ Clan to take my two rooms, I reported that to KJ Leader and one of their officers, the KJ Officer answer was: "QQ more with your Clan", the KJ Leader answer was "Names please" there was no other talk about that neither a apologize for their grief. I also mailed Ech0 Leader to know what was going on and I would keep any cooperation suspended till that issue was cleared.

09 - We were signed on Goddard Castle Siege witch was under KJ by the time and all of us killed anyone who was in the opposing side of us, that include MK, Doom Ally, Kenig Ally, Serenity, X, Toxic. Anyone that have been in that siege would see that Castor supposed question was just impossible to happen, also we were inside and it was my choice to not crest it immediately only started cresting when NF was able to start it too, both of us got interrupted near the end by Serenity and Inquisition.

10 - On March, 03 Ech0 Leader mailed me telling he know about problems with KJ but this time they would try to get the Castle changed to Ech0 and if we could help and join their CC, I told him that we could help fighting around and to not worry about us cause we would not try to crest but about joining their CC was depending of with Clans would be there, I left pretty clear that any Doom Ally, FR or other direct relation with any higher faction would be skipped by us.

On that siege we were the firsts to clean Kenig ppl inside the Castle and I was the first to start crest there, I add Babouras on Chat and informed that and asked is location, when he told he was entering the Castle I suspended the crest.


This is the simple facts, and to me unless someone is trying to play blind it is pretty clear that is a lot of wrong info being told, about any previous contacts even before the server merges or after were impossible to be done to me!

Most surreal specially with the amount of ppl from Eximius that joined Serenity is someone coming with the point that I would ask anyone ever in this Game if we could sign as attackers for their Castle, more stupid and totally impossible since we were even from start killing any Serenity too, and that was the lead to Ech0 Leader Request!!!

[MrTwig]

03 - There was no info passed from anyone about any Serenity Ally or any related Clan, previous conversations and nothing posted on this Forum or even in the Leader Team private area.

Wrong MG .. see: http://www.eximiusclan.com/threads/4922-Servermerge

I know I had conversations offline with TS, but as I said, nothing came from it.

some random talk here: http://www.eximiusclan.com/threads/4...8539#post38539

there were a few other random threads.